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Post by LWJ2009 on May 26, 2014 12:23:38 GMT
Yes the thread is correct, not only is it vital IMO to have one decent battle rifle in your inventory, but a second rifle is also a must for anybody prepping for an event.
Having one rifle is a wonderful thing, and investing a lot of money into these days are not uncommon. Trust me my new AR project is proof of the money that people will put into this beast, however their are some reasons for having two great rifles!
Having one rifle is great, but what if you have to arm somebody else in your group or family? This would place you in quite the pickle, because giving away your primary long arm would put one in quite the pickle. Yes giving them a shotgun is an option, but even with slugs the range is not going to be out to the 300 meter mark which is vital these days. You would have to adjust your tactics to make up for the lack of firepower. Out here in Wyoming distance is your friend, and I want my team mate to be able to reach out and touch somebody before they can do the same to us.
One of the other reasons to have a back up rifle is quite simple, theft. If somebody can manage to steal your rifle then your screwed. I keep both of mine in separate sections of the house, to make it harder for somebody to load up with both and be gone with a good chunk of money!  If somebody pre event manages to steal your only battle rifle, come event time your at an extreme disadvantage if the insurance check has not shown up yet to replace it.
Equipment malfunction and failure...yes it does happen from time to time even to the best money can buy. Some malfunctions can be repaired pretty easily and you should have a spare parts set for your rifle if you can manage that. However some failures are catastrophic in nature and your rifle can not be replaced. If you think I am kidding you imagine, somebody trying to cross a river and their cheapo sling breaks...  Yes your rifle has now been donated to mother nature, unless you get really lucky and find it. If you have a back up rifle you don't have to put yourself in the dangerous position of having to scrounge up another!
So these are the some of the reasons I had, as to why you will need two rifles what are yours? |
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Post by MajorDamage on May 26, 2014 13:03:23 GMT
When I began 'collecting' and starting purchasing in earnest, I thought through my needs (not wants which always cost more for some reason) and came up with the following categories:
(1) anti-personnel- in terms of long arms, my first purchase, I went with a stainless Mini-14 as a rugged, reliable and low cost entry (at that time) where mags, ammo and ease of use/maintenance made life simple. Hi-cap mags were not 'evil' yet and Mini-14s didn't have any stigma for ownership yet lethality is self-evident. I've never bought another although I have strongly considered it often. When I started collecting the AR platform and building my supply of mags, the commonality of ammo but not interchangeable mags w/the Mini has regulated the Mini-14 to a reserve or loaner status. Additionally, the few AKs I now own also fulfill this role however the different manufacturer (Chinese, Russian, Romanian) do not allow use of the 'common' mags as interchangeably one would think. The .223/5.56 and 7.62x39 meet this mission just fine.
(2) long-distance anti-personnel/anti-material- due to family inventory of 30.06, I decided that future purchases would be in this caliber as opposed to .308. There were two Rem 7600s in inventory and later I started buying the 'best' platform: the M1 Garand. I could never find a BAR (the real war one w/20 rd mags, not the puny commercial 4-rd stupidity) and again, ammo supply plus 8-rd clips can be used and not wasted or remain unused
(3) general-purpose/short-med range- the shotgun fills the square here as does the M1 carbine. I had 20 ga but then went started buying 12 ga. Having both, there is the logistical dilemma of two different ammo gauges. The M1 carbine is only good for other M1 carbines unless once can get the 'rare' AMT Automag III and the occasional Ruger Blackhawk in .30 carbine.
(4) handguns- I went either big bore (1911 .45 acp, .44 mag S & W 629) and small bore (.22, .22 mag). I have since diversified into 9mm and .38/.357 medium bores. Primarily the Beretta 92 platform and S & W M28 for common mags/speedloaders. Add in a few Glocks (17, 19) and the supply of ammo/mags will not become problems should one weapon go down for whatever reason.
I am firm believer in combat spares and solid logistical decisions.
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Post by 11acrblackhorse on May 27, 2014 3:11:23 GMT
I have
1 VZ58/2008 7.62x39
2 SKSs 7.62x39
3 Mauser (2-6.5x55 & 1 7.65x53)
2 Mosin Magants
1 Remington 870 12ga
1 Rossi Youth 410/22lr switch barrel
1 Taurus PT92 9x19
1 Glock 17 (Gen1) 9x19
1 Hi-Point 995 9x19
Yes I have backups for my backups and a few friends and family. Seems most around here only have a shotgun so needed to increase our firepower and it also fills my milsurp collection needs too
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Post by LWJ2009 on May 27, 2014 11:30:14 GMT
I have 1 VZ58/2008 7.62x39 2 SKSs 7.62x39 3 Mauser (2-6.5x55 & 1 7.65x53) 2 Mosin Magants 1 Remington 870 12ga 1 Rossi Youth 410/22lr switch barrel 1 Taurus PT92 9x19 1 Glock 17 (Gen1) 9x19 1 Hi-Point 995 9x19 Yes I have backups for my backups and a few friends and family. Seems most around here only have a shotgun so needed to increase our firepower and it also fills my milsurp collection needs too So what would you loan out first? |
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Post by SlowRide on May 29, 2014 21:55:16 GMT
Combat rifles mid/long: Rock River, LMT and SCAR 16 in 5.56 as well as 2 Arsenal Inc AK's filling the 7.62×39 role (both Bulgarian)
* I have a bolt carrier conversion to fire .22LR from the LMT or or Rock River making for an excellent training platform or varmint rifle...I currently own no other form of .22 firearm. I know sad :-( *
Combat Heavy long: SCAR 17 and POF both 7.62×51
Long range/Primary Hunting: Steyr Scout in 7.62×51, .300 Win Mag, 30.06
I feel confident in my current state that I would be able to loan out a rifle or two if needed
Short/CQB: 2 Mossy Blackwater 12ga shotguns, pistols .45, .40, 9mm, .357/.38
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Post by 11acrblackhorse on May 30, 2014 1:21:25 GMT
What would I loan out first?
If they are proficient with semiautomatic platforms then one of my SKSs.
If proficient with bolt guns then my Mauser.
If a typical shotgun only then my Remington.
If no experience then one of my Mosins
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Post by LWJ2009 on May 30, 2014 1:48:42 GMT
What would I loan out first? If they are proficient with semiautomatic platforms then one of my SKSs. If proficient with bolt guns then my Mauser. If a typical shotgun only then my Remington. If no experience then one of my Mosins Mind if I ask how much an SKS is going for these days? Your giving me an idea for another thread! I |
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Post by 11acrblackhorse on May 30, 2014 2:30:41 GMT
What would I loan out first? If they are proficient with semiautomatic platforms then one of my SKSs. If proficient with bolt guns then my Mauser. If a typical shotgun only then my Remington. If no experience then one of my Mosins Mind if I ask how much an SKS is going for these days? Your giving me an idea for another thread! I Around here in Ohio its $400-450 for most besides milsurp collectible rifles. Most you find already have at least a synthetic stock (folding/collapsible), 20/30rd magazine, and maybe a inexpensive scope. |
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If somebody pre event manages to steal your only battle rifle, come event time your at an extreme disadvantage if the insurance check has not shown up yet to replace it.
Yes your rifle has now been donated to mother nature, unless you get really lucky and find it. If you have a back up rifle you don't have to put yourself in the dangerous position of having to scrounge up another!
